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		<title>Conference Agenda: Day 2 (November 6th, 2005)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 18:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Angelo Embuldeniya</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[9:00-10:00 Presentation IV: &#8220;Web 2.0&#8243;            Speaker: Zhan Bin (Horse)
 10:00-10:10 Break
 10:10-11:10 Presentation V: &#8220;RSS&#8221;             Speaker: Lu XinXin
 11:10-11:40 Showcase: Selected Bloggers (this session was combined with Lu&#8217;s Presentation) 
 12:00-13:40 Lunch [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=cbc2005.wordpress.com&blog=15718&post=28&subd=cbc2005&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>9:00-10:00 <strong>Presentation IV:</strong> <a href="http://cbc2005.wordpress.com/2005/11/06/presentation-iv-web-20-by-zhan-bin-horse/">&#8220;Web 2.0&#8243;</a><br /><strong>            Speaker:</strong> <a href="http://zhanbin.com">Zhan Bin (Horse)</a></p>
<p> 10:00-10:10 Break</p>
<p> 10:10-11:10 <strong>Presentation V:</strong> <a href="http://cbc2005.wordpress.com/2005/11/06/presentation-v-rss-by-lu-xinxin/">&#8220;RSS&#8221;</a><br /><strong>             Speaker:</strong> <a href="http://www.lvxinxin.com">Lu XinXin</a></p>
<p> 11:10-11:40 <strong>Showcase:</strong> <a href="http://cbc2005.wordpress.com/2005/11/06/presentation-v-rss-by-lu-xinxin/">Selected Bloggers</a> (this session was combined with Lu&#8217;s Presentation) </p>
<p> 12:00-13:40 Lunch (<strong>Pics: </strong><a href="http://cbc2005.wordpress.com/2005/11/06/conference-stops-for-lunch/">pre-lunch</a> + <a href="http://cbc2005.wordpress.com/2005/11/06/pics-conference-pre-session-back-from-lunch-getting-ready/">post-lunch &amp; preparation for next session</a>) </p>
<p> <strong>Blog Presentations: </strong><a href="http://cbc2005.wordpress.com/2005/11/06/blog-presentations-of-maks-man-machine-cnblog/">Mak&#8217;s Man Machine &amp; CnBlog<br /> </a></p>
<p> 14:00-15:00 <strong>Presentation VI:</strong> <a href="http://cbc2005.wordpress.com/2005/11/06/presentation-vi-blogging-and-media-by-sayonly-zhi-shuo/">&#8220;Blogging and Media&#8221;</a><br /><strong>             Speaker:</strong> <a href="http://www.donews.net/sayonly/">SayOnly (Zhi Shuo)</a> </p>
<p> <strong>Presentations About Blogging:</strong> <a href="http://cbc2005.wordpress.com/2005/11/06/presentation-by-the-ceo-of-blogbuscom/">CEO of BlogBus.com</a> &amp; <a href="http://cbc2005.wordpress.com/2005/11/06/horse-on-blogging-public-relations/">Horse On Public Relations<br /> </a></p>
<p> 15:00-15:10 Break</p>
<p> 15:10-16:10 <strong>Seminar Discussion:</strong> <a href="http://cbc2005.wordpress.com/2005/11/06/seminar-discussion-tagsfolksonomy-moderated-by-jack/">&#8220;Tags/Folksonomy&#8221;</a><br />                   <strong>Moderator:</strong> Jack</p>
<p> <strong>Final Session:</strong> <a href="http://cbc2005.wordpress.com/2005/11/06/final-session-selected-bloggers/">Selected Bloggers</a> </p>
<p> <strong>An Announcement before Closing Remarks:</strong> <a href="http://cbc2005.wordpress.com/2005/11/06/cbc-2005-bloggers-t-shirt-auction-via-tagging/">CBC 2005 Bloggers&#8217; T-Shirt Auction Via Tagging</a></p>
<p> 16:10-16:30 <a href="http://cbc2005.wordpress.com/2005/11/06/cbc-2005-closing-remarks/">Closing Remarks</a> </p>
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<p><em>Tagged: <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/cnbloggercon">cnbloggercon</a>, </em><em><a href="http://www.technorati.com/tags/%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E7%BD%91%E5%BF%97%E5%B9%B4%E4%BC%9A">中文网志年会</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tags/CBC2005">CBC2005</a></em>  </p>
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		<title>CBC 2005 &#8211; Day 2</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 18:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Angelo Embuldeniya</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good Morning! The conference started off on time.. but unfortunately Rebecca and Cathyma and the other participants don&#8217;t have a good stable net line and therefore we might not have running translation at the irc rooms for today&#8217;s sessions. The Wifi was down at the start how ever its now up and sessions are bing [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=cbc2005.wordpress.com&blog=15718&post=13&subd=cbc2005&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Good Morning! The conference started off on time.. <strike>but unfortunately Rebecca and Cathyma and the other participants don&#8217;t have a good stable net line and therefore we might not have running translation at the irc rooms for today&#8217;s sessions.</strike> <strong>The Wifi was down at the start how ever its now up and sessions are bing broadcasted by Cathyma and Rebecca over irc rooms as well.</strong> The tech ppl have got a live cam up and running and the conference is being broadcasted live over it. I&#8217;ll continue to post pics of the sessions and happenings. Appologies for the hassle.-angelo. </p>
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<p><em>Tagged: <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/cnbloggercon">cnbloggercon</a>, </em><em><a href="http://www.technorati.com/tags/%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E7%BD%91%E5%BF%97%E5%B9%B4%E4%BC%9A">中文网志年会</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tags/CBC2005">CBC2005</a></em>  </p>
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		<title>Presentation IV: &#8220;Web 2.0&#8243; by Zhan Bin (Horse)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 18:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Angelo Embuldeniya</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Business-related problems associated with web 2.0
 The likelihood of which users need to pay for themselves
 micro-payment is another important tool for web 2.0 development -it provides a platform for spontaneous transactions
 
 The Spirits of web 2.0 -To transform ourselves through adopting web 2.0 online -also about the idea to share and to be [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=cbc2005.wordpress.com&blog=15718&post=14&subd=cbc2005&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Business-related problems associated with web 2.0</p>
<p> The likelihood of which users need to pay for themselves</p>
<p> micro-payment is another important tool for web 2.0 development<br /> -it provides a platform for spontaneous transactions</p>
<p> <img src="http://static.flickr.com/32/60226791_e419df60b0.jpg?v=0" /></p>
<p> The Spirits of web 2.0<br /> -To transform ourselves through adopting web 2.0 online<br /> -also about the idea to share and to be open &amp; to be original in blogging</p>
<p> What I&#8217;m going to talk next has more relevance to you.</p>
<p> What constitutes the web?<br />  We believe that we are the pillars of the web. think of the case of blogging.<br /> We have blog posts, pictures on delicious, to-dos on 43things, and reviews on Deouban<br /> We use our own information to form the content, posting on our personal pages thus constituting different websites</p>
<p> 1.microcontents, 2.personal pages, 3.websites<br /> Leads to: Personal database center, personal portal -&gt; we the web</p>
<p> Users have become important contributors to webcontents, reading list, blogroll and thus making them important and this is why we need to have more users-centered design</p>
<p><span id="more-14"></span></p>
<p> Social Relation:</p>
<p> Microcontents: blog, bookmarks, photos, todolists, podcasts</p>
<p> Social relations: individual, kin, friends, classmates, colleagues</p>
<p> How to we structure the vast amount of information of the microcontents?<br />  tags and in particular RSS. Bookmarking is also one of the tool.<br /> Distinction with BBS and the newly-emerged use of SNS Social Network (synthesis?)</p>
<p> Web 2.0 application in entertainment , human resources<br /> We can see that the tools that manage microcontents can be put as tools for information/knowledge where as the way we form social network (group, SNS, community, IMs) belongs more to social network formation. Of course the distinction is not clear-cut . We would talk not just about information, but also the social implications embedded in it. For interpersonal relationship, internet would enlarge our definitions of social structures</p>
<p> <img src="http://static.flickr.com/32/60226790_8d0ef3f131.jpg?v=0" /></p>
<p> Now i would proceed to the most interesting part of the talk<br />  ****semantic? Contextual web****</p>
<p> contextual web<br /> Semantic web: contextual web</p>
<p> social relation intergrate into internet<br /> Social relations have completely diffused into the internet sphere<br /> Any person&#8217;s post or link has complex semantic relationship.</p>
<p> we have enlarged semantic meanings for the contents online<br /> we would know that there is a living person writing it, and we would know the social relations of this person would that be a PR passage trying to pretend that it&#8217;s a neutral blog?</p>
<p> semantic structure<br /> &#8211; 1, knowledge<br /> &#8211; 2, personal relations</p>
<p> Reading habits: link-driven world. Mutual reinforcement and repetition the linking and semantic web are the main reason why newspapers are threatened, because our reading habits have been completely changed by the web of links example: talkdigger.com &amp; also http://tech.memeorandum.com</p>
<p> questions: can the semantic web scale?<br /> also: what is being recorded (saved)?<br /> can look at the relationship between information/content and the time when it appeared, etc.</p>
<p> Horse shows a table showing different services and their usefulness for different kinds of searches<br />  semantic? contextual web&#8230; far away&#8230;</p>
<p> <img src="http://static.flickr.com/33/60229933_a0b1c2f959.jpg?v=0" /></p>
<p> he now wants to talk about his personal observations about the semantic web<br />   things to watch in social behavior on the web, analyze user behavior</p>
<p> how people manifest their personal identity online<br /> look at how people represent themselves online and how they create their identities<br /> look at social relations online</p>
<p>many people ask about what will the social and political implications be of these changes?<br />  horse thinks that it will be very subtle and slow, bubbling up from the bottom and hard to point at concrete changes initially<br />   creativity, dialogue are key terms</p>
<p>  things that are anti-web 2.0<br />   unfair business practices</p>
<p> horse thinks that the government actions arent as threatening<br />  he doesnt think that the law will prevent people from doing most things<br />  more concerned about business practices: spam,    copyright laws</p>
<p>  the key to protecting web 2.0: let the individual become the &#8220;points of light&#8221; and protect them<br /> his website http://zhanbin.com</p>
<p> Tagged: <em /><em><a href="http://www.technorati.com/tags/cnbloggercon">cnbloggercon</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tags/%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E7%BD%91%E5%BF%97%E5%B9%B4%E4%BC%9A">中文网志年会</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tags/CBC2005">CBC2005</a></em> </p>
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		<title>Presentation V: &#8220;RSS&#8221; by Lu XinXin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Angelo Embuldeniya</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Adjusting his screen, Lu apologizes for lack of break, bcz he has an appointment<br /> He wants to turn this talk into a social network and make it interactive with other people in the room. He would invite the featured bloggers</p>
<p> <img src="http://static.flickr.com/28/60253178_a419ab5e1f.jpg?v=0" /></p>
<p> Lu Xinxin is now talking<br /> He was the CEO from feedsky, this may be his first time talking about his views on rss in public</p>
<p> <img src="http://static.flickr.com/31/60256351_b0ee40d245.jpg?v=0" /></p>
<p> He asks if anybody in room doesnt know what rss is.<br /><span id="more-16"></span><br />  Lu invites blogger xiao bai, bxy (claims he doesnt like to talk. right.)<br /> He is showing a feedsky feed</p>
<p> <img src="http://static.flickr.com/29/60251464_e432df9d78.jpg?v=0" /></p>
<p> Bxy is talking about how dave winer invented rss, he&#8217;s a big fan of dave winer (scripting.com)<br /> Dave winer created rss to give every single person a tool</p>
<p> <img src="http://static.flickr.com/29/60254699_882bcdb76a.jpg?v=0" /></p>
<p> Lu resumes talking<br /> Shows slide of how people interact with microcontent via rss<br /> the path from content creators becoming content receivers</p>
<p> <img src="http://static.flickr.com/30/60253175_4b2760a595.jpg?v=0" /></p>
<p> Bxy talks about different www.hao123.com and 265.com:<br /> Do you waste your time clicking through links looking for new content?<br /> yes<br /> but rss is much better because it only pushes you new content<br /> so rss is much more useful than hao123.com<br /> everybody here are creators of the web<br /> the web is becoming a truly open web, thanks to xml</p>
<p> You dont have to gather all users or creaters in one place in order to see everything you want</p>
<p> Now he&#8217;s talking about tags</p>
<p> <img src="http://static.flickr.com/28/60254697_8fadfe4961.jpg?v=0" /></p>
<p> -social media<br /> -open platform<br /> users self-organizing through tagging</p>
<p> Lu now talking about the rss structure and what its commercial model might be.</p>
<p> Tangos are talking about the value chain in RSS industry:<br /> -statistics of content<br /> -ad in RSS feed<br /> -rss advertisements</p>
<p> <img src="http://static.flickr.com/31/60253177_56bb6dfc3e.jpg?v=0" /></p>
<p> Lu xinxin says that outside the commercial model there are undoubtedly many more applications of rss that we haven&#8217;t yet thought of.</p>
<p> Now he&#8217;s talking aobut how rss will impact various professions<br /> example: education</p>
<p> Teacher can set up students with ress readers then send out everything the students need from the lecture materials and so forth via rss feed.</p>
<p> He is asking zhuang xiuli to talk<br /> She is talking about how she introduces rss to teachers in her own clas, every student has a class and she subscribes to rss feeds of all of them<br /> RSS is a great way for teachers to get to know students better in big classes theres little opportunity for face to face interaction.<br /> kids can hold class discussion on blogs, facilitated through rss</p>
<p>Lu xinxin now talking about use of rss within companies as way for people to keep on top of each others&#8217; info. Now talking about the future of rss. Lu invites famous blogger from guangxi. (kenlee.cn)</p>
<p><img src="http://static.flickr.com/32/60267755_6278447d03.jpg?v=0" /></p>
<p>Ken is talking:<br />-he says blog is like island.<br />-it generates rss, like small tree saplings</p>
<p>So you need to search to find out what fruits you want to pick but that takes a lot of time. so a lot of tools help us create our own personal orchards from what we want<br />Then as we enjoy these fruits we will have new ideas and reactions, leading us to create new content which becomes new seedlings, and the cycle is repeated,so its an endless cycle of dissipation and aggregation</p>
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<p>-(the tao of rss)<br />-(tao of the web..)</p>
<p>Lu xinxin says that identity is now determined by people&#8217;s urls</p>
<p>now talking about rss and copyright issues<br />invites xba (http://blog.hexun.com/xba)</p>
<p>xba talking:<br />when youre putting out rss feeds you&#8217;re not retaining all rights or pepole cant use your rss<br />theres a lot of debate about copyright and rss (talking about lawrence lessig)</p>
<p><img src="http://static.flickr.com/27/60267756_48b90c31d0.jpg?v=0" /></p>
<p>talking about the creative commons license giving non-comercial attribution license<br />question of whether the license should be for attribution all rights reserved, or for atribution non-commercial<br />some people subscribing to rss cant see license<br />so they cant say they&#8217;re violating copyright<br />so if you want people to know your license it needs to be written into each piece of content</p>
<p>atom format enables license to be written into each piece of content<br />flickr allows you to pick license<br />anyway this is a really really complex issue</p>
<p>Under current conditions: he suggests you might need to attach license to each piece of content if you&#8217;re really concerned about usage of your content</p>
<p><img src="http://static.flickr.com/31/60261783_118954b919.jpg?v=0" /></p>
<p>Luxinxin says its not clear who first brought rss to china<br />-may have been zheng.<br />-would like zheng to write more on his blog about how that happened<br />-rss in china: seems to be in very early stage of development</p>
<p><img src="http://static.flickr.com/27/60272441_facd7577e4.jpg?v=0" /></p>
<p>He shows graphic from Feedsky<br />His company which is tracking chinese feeds<br />rss will develop very quickly in china just like in rest of the world</p>
<p>When he says he is doing site about feeds people ask him if hes&#8217; doing a food site<br />He invites herock to talk<br />http://www.herock.net/</p>
<p>Herock says: under current circumstances theres no commercial application for rss, A lot of people have rss feeds on their blogs and dont even know. Talks about sohu blogs, doesnt like them. People need to pay attention to details. Lu says he&#8217;s worried that companies will mess up rss w/ commercial apps.</p>
<p>Lu&#8217;s URL&#8217;s:<br />www.lvxinxin.com<br />email: lvxinxin@yikey.com<br />msn: xasf2000@yahoo.com.cn</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Participants &#38; organizers of CBC 2005 on day 2 going off for lunch:
 
 Blogger Zola, rushing off for a bite before the next speaker session starts:
 
 And, speaking of Zola, he&#8217;s got some nice photos from yesterday&#8217;s CBC 2005 conference at his weblog!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Participants &amp; organizers of CBC 2005 on day 2 going off for lunch:</p>
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<p> Blogger <a href="http://www.zuola.com/weblog">Zola</a>, rushing off for a bite before the next speaker session starts:</p>
<p> <img src="http://static.flickr.com/27/60279838_88604a585a.jpg?v=0" /></p>
<p> And, speaking of Zola, he&#8217;s got some nice photos from yesterday&#8217;s CBC 2005 conference at his <a href="http://www.zuola.com/weblog/article.asp?id=327">weblog</a>!</p>
<p> And the stage &amp; podium is set for the next series of presentations after lunch:</p>
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