November 6, 2005

Conference Agenda: Day 2 (November 6th, 2005)

Posted in CBC 2005 - Day 2 at 6:30 pm by Angelo Embuldeniya

9:00-10:00 Presentation IV: “Web 2.0”
Speaker: Zhan Bin (Horse)

10:00-10:10 Break

10:10-11:10 Presentation V: “RSS”
Speaker: Lu XinXin

11:10-11:40 Showcase: Selected Bloggers (this session was combined with Lu’s Presentation)

12:00-13:40 Lunch (Pics: pre-lunch + post-lunch & preparation for next session)

Blog Presentations: Mak’s Man Machine & CnBlog

14:00-15:00 Presentation VI: “Blogging and Media”
Speaker: SayOnly (Zhi Shuo)

Presentations About Blogging: CEO of & Horse On Public Relations

15:00-15:10 Break

15:10-16:10 Seminar Discussion: “Tags/Folksonomy”
Moderator: Jack

Final Session: Selected Bloggers

An Announcement before Closing Remarks: CBC 2005 Bloggers’ T-Shirt Auction Via Tagging

16:10-16:30 Closing Remarks



Tagged: cnbloggercon, 中文网志年会, CBC2005



  1. Chinese Blogger Conference 05: Recap and Random Thoughts

    Chinese Blogger Conference 05: Recap and Random Thoughts

  2. hero said,

    Chinese getting straight As are not allowed into universities. Not allowed civil service jobs. That is blatant discrimination.

    Why do you support such discrimination?

    Chinese Malaysians have built very successful businesses, hence they have the wealth that they have. This is not greed. They worked for what they now own.

    Why do you envy what does not belong to you? Is this not greed?

    It is quite untrue that business offers are conducted on the basis of race. Starting any business is very very hard work, but the malays did not have a hard working tradition to persevere. This is a cultural change the malays need in order to conduct businesses successfully.

    Armed with this knowledge, do you still insist that Chinese Malaysians are greedy, and therefore it is right for malays to take what does not belong to them?

    Your perception of business in Malaysia has got to be wrong.

    Most goods and services can be conducted in open markets, and there is no particular reason to single out malays so that Chinese businessmen should swindle them. There are lots of swindlers in business so it is not just malays who get swindled.

    Successful businessmen depend on providing real benefits to customers and partners so that it is worthwhile for them to do business again and again to both parties benefit. It is only when customers also get rich that businesses can grow.

    The discrimination against Chinese, Indians and other peoples cannot be tolerated in the modern world. Countries that do this will face long-term decline.

    Hard working people are not greedy as you accuse them. They are hard working because they have a mission in life to prosper, to give offspring a good chance in life to live to the full, to contribute their talents to the betterment of society……….

    This is not greed.

    Whereas, envy of others wealth and taking what they have not worked for is greed.

    I would put is stronger. It is robbery and corruption. You talk like a Mafia extortionist when you said that worse could happen to the Chinese, so be thankful because there are more malays than Chinese, and therefore they can take even more from the Chinese if they want to.

    You have to be joking to believe that your greed and prejudices are the wonderful things about Malaysia. Well, may be you do.

    Malaysia as describe it is a country based on racism, lack of a conscience, and greed (taking from hard working foreigners).

    Meritocracy is denounced. Robbing the wealthy is promoted.

    How can there be a good future for such a country?

    Looking from outside of Malaysia, it is easy to see that the malay-controlled government is enforcing a wealth-robbing programme from the Chinese who earned their wealth through hard work.

    By barring bright well-qualified Chinese Malaysians from entering Malaysian universities, Malaysia is pursuing a discriminatory policy based on race.

    This is not tolerated in civilised countries. It is a policy that gives Malaysia a very bad reputation and deprives itself of its most talented.

    It is a policy which tells the malays that robbing from the rich is not greed because being rich, being educated is the same as being greedy.

    This is moral corruption and self-contradiction which Malaysia will pay a very heavy price.

  3. British man said,

    I emigrated to the UK from Malaysia as a child after the infamous riots where was 35 years ago and things have not changed much.

    It is common to read in the Malaysian tabloids that these uncivilised malay buggers rape their own daughters and perform other disgusting acts.

    I have no regrets at all when I surrendered my Malaysian passport and took up British nationality.

    My advice to all oversea Chinese is to avoid Malaysia like the plague.

    You know something – once outside the perimeters of Malaysia, these malay savages are so small in value even a dog has more value than them!

  4. malaysia is no future country said,


    For those who are already in oversea and live comfortably. There is no reason for you to come back to Malaysia. Life in Malaysia is getting tougher each day.

    Frankly, as a Chinese, I don’t see there is any future for our next generation.

    Another dangerous mentor that people always use is JFK “Don’t ask what the country can do for you, ask what you can do for the country”.

    Is sound nice, but isn’t how German Nazi and Japan militarism started the world war using the same mentor? Under the great “ask what you can do for the country”.

    Patriotism? Yes, I understand how you feel. Your love for the country was spoilt by the political party. Since non-malays will always be a second-class citizen, so you are probably the same in any other countries, if not better.

    You get cannibalised by your own countrymen, intellectually and professionally.

    As someone else advised, be a Global citizen.

    Patriotism does not need you to be in Malaysia to work your due. Let no one pointed at you and say you are a traitor if your true intention is to generate good deeds for Malaysia wherever you are.

    Save your time about coming back to Malaysia. Nothing will change in Malaysia. At least not even in this lifetime. Racism will still be here to stay, and also everything else.

    I think there is such an entrenched racist discrimination against the Chinese and Indians in Malaysia, that it will take probably a whole generation to undo the damage.

    This is happening in whole spectrum of the Malaysian government, civil service, state governments and universities. Just look at percentage of malays in all these government bodies – 98%……….

    A whole generation of malays has been brought up to think that it’s their inherited right to own Malaysia. The other races are damned.

    I think the malays especially those in power, are scared right now that if they will to compete openly with other races, they will surely be the loser. You will see very strong resistance to hire other races even the most qualified.

    The malays are never brought up to compete on even ground. This is fault of previous PM and now the present PM has to tread a balance ground to ensure the malays are not cast away as well as to make Malaysia competitive worldwide.

    In US I never met a malay immigrant, although there are thousands of Malaysian Chinese and Indian immigrants. Why? Malays in Malaysia have an easier life where they are literately prince of the land.

    We have infrastructure good enough to be considered first world or better. Look at the Cyberjaya, Petronas Twin Towers, Putrajaya?

    Gleaming high-rise buildings but also in every city, dirty toilets abound, litter clogging up the drains, public telephones damaged, plus unreliable rubbish collection and disposal. We just treat public facilities badly, not caring about others.

    Being an urban dweller myself, I am constantly disheartened by the poor public infrastructure and upkeep in our capital city.

    Faulty pedestrian traffic signals, illogical positioning of bus stops, poor public cleanliness, poor quality sidewalks (which are paved using slippery tiles), un-integrated and poorly managed public transportation system, the list goes on.

    Your children can’t even walk safely along the Kuala Lumpur streets, as they might be bags snatched, kidnapped, murdered, raped, or robbed, as they do not know the jungle laws of Malaysia. The police won’t help much as they now have a big pile of corruption cases running after them.

    You owe nothing to Malaysia, you pay your due, so live on.

    So, my last advice. Don’t come back unless you are really suffering in oversea.

    I’m sorry this sounds very racist but I think we have to be honest in discussion.


  5. Kirana said,

    wow. thank God our forefathers had the sense to institutionalise a minimum standard for malay rights and identity. without it, clearly malays would go the way of the american indians who become oppressed by descendants of immigrants who were not invited by the native race.

    anyway, for your information, the policy is called affirmative action, a phrase well known to the blacks of america. the polices in favour of malays, apart from those specifically enshrined in the constitution for the native peoples of this land, are being gradually eased to introduce more elements of meritocracy. and the indians stand poised to get some affirmative action, since presently they are the group that is least making progress. if it’s going too slow for you by all means leave.

    don’t think that the crimes reported in malay dailies don’t happen in other communities too. it just isn’t reported in the malay dailies. and it isn’t true that the chinese are not allowed civil service jobs. police, military and government departments conduct special drives just to recruit more from non-malay communities, both to get more balance, and also to dispel the growing perception that non-malays are only in the country for their personal gain and are not willing to risk their safety by becoming firemen or police officers. but their campaigns have received lukewarm reception.

    i suggest you actually talk to people of different races instead of badmouthing things you don’t understand, especially if you are ignorant of the country’s history, which stretches much further back beyond your first ancestor who arrived here from china. this archipelago is the malay archipelago. from what i see, the malays are far more tolerant to immigrant races compared to europe, china, the arab countries, or any country whose dominant population is the native race of the land.

    my chinese friend would be ashamed of you. when we talk about the country’s problems of corruption and waste and about the future, we never get racist about it. and it is always spoken of as *our* country. one to be built together, and somehow a more just future needs to come from present realities and past shadows.

  6. John said,

    Hi all

  7. Fed up Malaysian said,

    I strongly disagree with the arguments made by Kirana. Obviously, one would have to be a “bumiputra”, brought up with the privileges and luxuries that the state can offer, to strongly oppose any actions to dispose of this disgustingly racist mockery of a system they call the “National Economic Policy” (NEP) – in other words a Nazi styled affirmative action policy. Even then, the Nazis have failed to achieve what the malays have succeeded in doing- the gradual disintegration and subsequent eradication of non-malay societies and their civil rights in Malaysia without attracting too much local opposition and international censure.

    Ignorance is bliss. I do find it amusing that the malays would arrogantly consider themselves the indigenous people of the south east asian region when there are in fact numerous research and journals that have indicated that they emigrated from a region south of China, possibly Yunnan. This clearly means that the true indigenous people are the Orang Asli. Yet, these so called affirmative action policies have yet to benefit them and they are as poor as ever. And best yet, the NEP exists to allocate the hard earned tax income from the local chinese and indians into the social welfare of the malays and other recent malaysian citizens of arabic or indonesian descent. This is blasphemy – I am a third generation malaysian who have lived in malaysia for most of my life, and yet, I have no right to any of these citizen privileges and find myself playing second fiddle to these newcomers from some far distant countries. I’ll pray that you do have a goodnight sleep and a clear conscience about this, Kirana , considering the fact that most of your present human comforts are courtesy of a lot of unwilling taxpayers.

    I have been living in Australia for years now and I’ve never been happier – away from the racial discriminations that formed a huge chunk of my life. The ironic thing is that there are many more opportunities for me overseas then there are back in malaysia. Tell me, how does it feel to be humiliated, abused and deprived of your right as a citizen of your own country? I would love to share some of my own experiences: I had the grades to get myself into a local varsity to further my studies but was rejected because the maximum 10 percent non-malay quota was fulfilled. My parents (who aren’t well off, mind you) had to fork out a tremendous amount of money just to put me into a decent overseas uni (a very common trend among malaysian non-bumiputra parents is to send their kids to foreign learning institutions because the local varsities would not accept them – dashing the hopes of those who could not afford it) , only to discover that majority of these bumiputra students have been living the good life over here, thanks to the generous allocation of scholarship money from MARA and JPA. One of them was allocated so much money that he could even afford to buy two cars for his own personal use per month! And his previous academic grades weren’t that impressive to deserve such a luxury. Besides that, it was only a few months ago that the government was urging these self-supporting non-malay overseas students to be patriotic and return home to serve for the “greater good of the nation”. Really, they actually had the guts to ask them to return home when no contribution and help was provided to them whatsoever. One would have been understanding if this context had been applied to other countries; but this is Malaysia – with its policies to provide 90% of scholarship money (once again courtesy of non-malay taxpayers) to malay students, not based on meritocracy but some horrendous,faulty affirmative action policies. Wow, I still can’t believe that there are malays out there who still take us as rich fools to be mined, when there are hundreds if not thousands of malaysian chinese and indians at the lower end of the prosperity scale.

    It might sound like some endless raving of a madman but enough is enough. Truth be told, I will be more than willing to leave this god forsaken land. I loved my country but having put up with this nonsense for ages, I think it’s time to say good riddance to rubbish.

    If you want to enlighten yourself about the ever deteriorating racial discrimination situation in Malaysia, check out this interesting website:

  8. coolooc said,

    You stinking malay pig, please get the f*** back to your own land in Aceh or Jawa, whatever. Because this is Tanah Orang Asli and malay pig like you are pendatang!

    To someone……….time and time again we have said that the malays are from Jawa. I always say that they are from Aceh, Sumatra, etc – do you see anyone of these racists (obviously malays) objecting to that fact?

    This is the truth and they cannot handle this. They don’t dare say that because it is so true! Even Mahathir admitted recently – the origins of the malays are not Malaysia but Indonesia – Sumatra and island etc.

    The real bumis are the natives of Borneo and the Orang Asli. Not these malay free loaders and wasted sperms.

    “Son of the soil” incorrect! More appropriate term would be “Rapist of the soil”! Malays are pendatang, they called Chinese and Indians pendatang! Tak malu!

    To malays pendatang from Indonesia, you are also enemy to Indonesia, stupid! Apa? Tak faham English? Makan tahi dan berambus balik ke Jawa! Setia kepada negara Indonesia! So are you, malay pig!

    Aren’t you a bloody hypocrite? You are not the Orang Asli of this country – you are an immigrant from Jawa, Sulawesi, all elsewhere – why did you come here to this country then?

    Why not help your own country (or should I say your dilapidated kampung in Jawa) and improve the situation then? What……….what did you say? Oh you want a better life is it? I see – so what does that make you? A patriotic fake? Or a hypocrite with no substance?

    Compare China and Indonesia – then tell me who is faring better in the international stage! You useless malay pig. At the end of the day – you work for me.

    Obviously, you are worse than shit. Not pigs, for pigs are really smart animals. Tanah Melayu my ass! Orang Asli were here before your ancestors crept onto this land. Learn some history, ok? Of course, you can always change history! Tak malu kah!

    You are sick in the brain, thanks to Mahathir!

    Chinese got pissed off as not all Chinese are rich, but all work their asses off to make an honest living, while idiots like you think that you are entitled to riches without sweating. What discontent? After all the handouts all these years, you still couldn’t get your acts together, and you want to blame others, the Chinese, the Indians? Where is your dignity?

    What anger? You get angry at the Olympics because malays can’t run faster than the Americans? The Aussies? The Chinese? (Just imagine some of you jokers made it to the Olympics, although none did!)

    If you want to run amok, go ahead, join the apes and chimpanzees, your kind have been doing that at UPM, brainless monkeys they are, and so are you, go flock together.

    The reason why malays tend to run “amok” is because of close relative breeding. Just like non-high breed dogs – brother have sex with the mother, and father marry their own sister, and the confusion goes on.

    The end result is non-high breed dogs – that are difficult to train and tend to even bite their own master. Unlike the Chinese, they are very careful not to have too close relative marrying one another.

    That is why you can see how Chinese excel in different part of the world. The Chinese are indeed a world race now, as China progress with such speed which is unknown off in any other race in the world!

    Singapore is a fine example of Chinese superiority! Sad news for the malay race but then again it is the truth!

    (Malay extremists racists are going to call you pendatang etc, even hang you upside down by your balls, for socking them in the balls where it hurts most, like you did.

    But you have been brave in telling them the truth about the dark side of their race which explains why they are so backward. God be with you……….)

    Rich and successful Chinese don’t owe you a thing. Not so successful Chinese are working honestly to make ends meet. So, you either work, or go get fed in the ass by Mahathir, ok? He won’t charge you for the ecstasy and the service you may receive.

    You are nothing but scum. You give fellow malays a bad name. You make your parents lose face. When you look in the mirror, what do you see? A good-for-nothing idiot! That is all there is in you.

    You are a babi hutan from either the jungle of Jawa or Sumatra. All you Umno malay pig are in fact pendatang to this Tanah Orang Asli. So get the f*** out of my country!

  9. aston said,

    I am totally agree what you have said, those moron malays have no sense of ‘malu’. For example, I find that most of those malay pig creature are dirty and smelly, but they still walking around proudly with that stinking and ugly look.

    Another example is most of them are poor, they can’t afford a big luxury car. When they saw Chinese or Indian driving a big car, they are feeling distress and jealous.

    What a loser! Hey non-malays can afford a big car without depend on NEP policy. But you pathetic malay pig can’t afford it even though with NEP policy help. Loser malay pig!

  10. vesewe said,

    Yes, a lot of non-malays in Malaysia are leaving this country. But what the hell, they (babiputras) don’t care. They are happy that we leave.

    I do agree with you of those you mentioned, our country is stepping backward, we are loosing in all aspects and yet overdue and retard ministers are still available on shelf. The ministers think that they are the only ones capable and qualified to be there and not replaceable, otherwise the country could collapse.

    Looking at Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq likes looking at this country future. The well connected babiputras are getting richer. This government is spoon feeding the babiputras at this nation expense. I am sick of this country too.

    My advise is let them rot in their own stew.

    The Barisan government has achieved 0% in reversing the trend of racism.

    While South Africa has disbanded racism through the government’s initiative after the global news onslaught, our Malaysia government leaders are propagating RACISM and FACISM in every way.

    In term of racism, we are the most uncivilised country in the world. Look into our neighbouring countries of Asia, they are advancing economically on a straight forward objective, for their citizens.

    Whereas we are moving in deviationist path, widely off the international economic theory for the sole objective, of propelling the well being of a supreme race.

    Mahathir era is over, here we have Badawi. Is he changing the trend? Not a single sign of it.

    How about the future under Najib? Sad, sad. They have more camouflage in readiness.

    Hey, you pathetic cow and all the babiputras who have the same feeling/thinking like them. You don’t feel shame being spoon feed by government using the taxpayers money?

    I guess all the protection policy make you all even more lazy and narrow minded and stupid. The majority of you once step out of the Malaysia soil will sure starve to death.

    Hoy, I think you should try some pork meat once a while to make you more intelligent a bit. Look at around the world region, anti pork meat countries are mostly rippled with starving and war or worst, non-stop crying for government policy protection.

    Fact is fact when you babiputras are stupid is always stupid – although it can be help by consistent protection and nourishment policy but the end result will not go far because the quality of gene is there.

  11. killer said,

    This malay pig race is so stupid, that they’d never amount to anything in this world.

    This message board has been here for awhile, and if anyone goes back, there is no one message, that talks good about this stupid malay pig race, because everybody knows how stupid, and hateful this malay pig race is all about.

    The malay pig will crumble from internal weaknesses and disappear in era of globalization – no need for others to colonize them.

    Because malay pig like to be parasites and feed on the Chinese income tax!

    Wait until the malay pig population increase to 90% in Malaysia, the same ratio as in Indonesia, then you will know the meaning of poor, as there will be too many malay pig to subsidize.

    Then the economy collapse.

    The malay pig are actually digging their own grave and they are trying to dig a deeper and bigger one now.

    But all of them I have to see are being manipulated by certain top malay politicians so they will support them.

    There show that the general malay pig are quite stupid and can’t think outside the box.

    Only 1% of the malay pig can make it and they are the exceptions. If malay pig are not stupid, what are they?

    If all malay pig jump into sea and all die!

    This world will become very very beautiful.

  12. cool man said,

    F***k Muslims and all malay pig in Malaysia.

    I feel ashamed to call myself a Malaysian nowadays because you malay pig are making us losing our pride day by day by corrupting the once dignified image of this country, you know Malaysia is now a laughing stock among the non-Muslim countries in the world!

    People despise this country still protecting the lame lot and not doing anything to improve the deteriorating situation, still practising double standards among its own people, still expelling the non-malay genius to other countries, still depriving the rights and benefits of other races to its own race, still criticize and blame the Chinese for their minority poverty.

    Hey, what is wrong with you malay pig? Haven’t you fed yourself enough with the loots yet? Still want more? What a worthless thieves bunch!

    You malay pig are worse than a maggot. We need a leader not a faggot to rule this country. Get lost you freak!

    For all the bad things you stupid melayu babi say about the Chinese, when you are in trouble and big shit, what do you do?

    You come crawling back on your knees to the Chinaman to help you, because you can’t trust all your malay pig who are sodomy rapists, incest culprits, drug addicts.

    Without the Chinese, you malay pig will still live on trees, swinging from tree to tree like monkeys, or forages on the ground by your 4 legs to eat all the shit.

    You malay pig are a truly ungrateful lot – the minute all the Chinese leave Bolehland – you malay pig will collapse into the sea and die – that is your destiny!

    I think the problem of malay pig race is their culture – it is in born in their gene – nowhere in the world that you will see affirmative action is focusing on the majority because it is always the minority that need the protection.

    Worst, the minority in Malaysia has been systematically marginalized just to suppress them of their growth.

    Let the malay pig make Malaysia the most corrupted place to live in and see what happened in 2020? I guess malay pig will go back to Indonesia as Malaysia don’t belong to them, they are also immigrants from Sumatra, Sulawesi, Jawa, etc.

    Please get it into your pea-sized otak udang plastered with layers and layers of tahi babi encased in your kepala kayu that Malaysia belong to the Orang Asli who are the true bumis of the country.

    Niffy pellmell malay pig are in fact pendatang haram who swam across the Melaka Strait illegally from Sumatra. They should be caught, given severe caning and deported back to their pig sties in Sumatra.

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